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October 08, 2007

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A lot of these lenders have written off most of their potential liabilities. For example, if Takefuji management is to be believed (not necessarily a safe thing to do ;) ), it should be back to profitability next year. One should always discount some further write-offs but most of the liabilities seem to have been accounted for.

My feeling is that the consumer settlements are mostly done with. Instead, the concern to me is whether they can recover their operations given that they lost the gray zone. I remember looking at Takefuji (I'm sure it's the same with the other lenders) and they had most of their loans in the gray zone. With the loss of that, can they compete at the lower rates, which are closer to the conventional banks?

Sivaram: My reading is that investors thought the companies would go out of business, period. That's probably true for some smaller outfits, but not for the big four. And there's probably going to be significant consolidation -- even including the banks.

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