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Jim Rogers says the shortest bull market in commodities lasted 15 years. That gives us at least 6 more years.

Stilgar, I'm bearish on commoditied and been wrong(!) over the year, but the fact that the shortest commodity cycle was 15 years doens't really mean much. The sample size is so small (you probably have 4 bull makret periods in the last 150 years) that it may not mean much. For instance, what's to say a new minimum of 11 years isn't in the cards?

Furthermore, individual commodities move independently so some may still have upside whereas others may fizzle. For example, I'm not so sure that soft commodities (agriculturals) don't have more upside (Rogers and Marc Faber seem most bullish on these right now); but it wouldn't surprise me if oil or the metals such as copper and uranium may be near a top.

Having said this, this is just a guess and who knows what is in store? All I know is that the Fed Funds Futures market is pricing in rate hikes later in the year, and that is generally very bearish for commodities (and generally bullish for US$). But they may not raise rates later if the economy ends up weaker than thought.

I dont know what is magical about 5 years. Fact is we continue to have emerging economies and lots of need for infrastructure replacement in developed countries. On top of that we have expansion of money supply everywhere coupled with increased development costs not to mention the time factor for example of bringing new mines into production. The mines that I follow are all experienced costs of production well in excess of what was predicted a year ago. All the above would argue for an upward bias to metals. one of the production costs of mining is power and thats not getting any cheaper nor is water getting more abundant.

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