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August 01, 2009

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Did you look at buying coins/physical gold instead of the ETF? I have been hearing several funds using bulluion instead of the ETF.....

@Alex: No, I didn't. I'm aware of the argument in favor of owning the physical metal. But I don't want the hassle of storing it, etc. For me the simplest, best way is the ETF (with CEF trading at a premium).

GLD and SLV ETFs have a fundamental problem as the prospectus leaves lots of room for finger pointing just in case things go bad with one of their trading counterparties/suppliers. The best PM ETFs are managed by Swiss Zuercher Kantonalbank who store all bullion in their own vaults.
http://prudentinvestor.blogspot.com/2009/06/safest-way-to-own-physically-allocated.html

Wow, that is a pretty big step especially considering all the gold related discussions we've seen here. Kudos to you for making the move back into gold, John.

I do not own any of the gold or silver ETFs, but Toni beat me to the punch on issues with GLD & SLV. I have not studied their prospectuses as closely as some others have, but I understand that there were some real questions over whether the gold or silver is actually in the vault & allocated. From what I heard in the past CEF & GTU.TO in Canada were more reliable in this respect - anyone know if that's still true & if that accounts for persistent premium in CEF?

Gold pays no dividend, but it's really not supposed to. It has historically served as a store of value & purchasing power (as you well know!).

I have to admit this position surprises me a bit. I understand the move for gold as insurance, but it just doesn't appear to be that cheap, and it never collapsed like the other metals. It almost seems to have too much buzz lately. Are there any other hedges you are considering?

I sometimes wonder why TIPs don't get the love when everyone is buying gold. After all, your principal is protected (you get back the greater of your original investment or the upwardly revised principal based on CPI) and you get a very modest yield while you wait.

Granted, CPI is a crummy measure of inflation. But is it worse than gold? I can understand buying gold based on supply/demand fundamentals, or even on technicals, though that isn't my preferred method of investing.

It just seems that with the inflation/deflation debate so compelling (it feels like something big is going to happen, but I don't know if it is up or down) one should appreciate the put option attached to a TIP.

My gut is that if inflation gets out of control, gold may perform better. But if we stay deflationary for long, TIP will win hands down, and gold will likely collapse.

Your thoughts?

I have a little silver myself, but not in a sufficient amount for it to be considered an investment position. I think we're going to see a lot of action in gold once it hits four digits and stays there, although I don't see that surge-up happening until sometime in 2010. It'll occur to more and more people that there were only two asset classes that were up in the 2008 calender year: U.S T-bonds and gold. If the former goes into a bear market, it's probably for the same reasons that would push the latter up.

In fact, gold has the potential to go into a bubble for the first time in 30-odd years if inflation gets out of hand and/or the U.S dollar keeps sinking.

@Toni: Thanks for the info. Fred Hickey reports having most of his metals exposure in the GLD. Good enough for Fred, good enough for me.

@David: No question, if CEF was trading at a discount I would have bought it.

@Zach: I thought about putting some money into SLV (because CEF has mostly gold, but some silver), and some into gold miners. But just decided to keep it simple, and that means GLD for me.

@Met: I actually own an inflation-protected bond fund in my HSA (has TIPS, but not exclusively). That's not part of the scope of this blog.

Daniel: Nothing would make me happier than for gold to break the $1,000 USD barrier and skyrocket. Though I'm not banking on that.

I think your gold investment will probably pay off in the long run.

America has enjoyed a period of disinflation for the past 2 decades. This was driven by a variety of factors, notably anti-inflation oriented fed chairmen but most importantly increased globalization that brought many workers into the world market, which depressed wages and prices.

I think the financial crisis of 07-08 marked an end to this period and now we are entering a period of high inflation. This would be driven by continued pressure on energy prices and other inputs, an end to the trend of globalization (at least temporarily), and huge fiscal deficits. It's only a matter of time before inflation rears its ugly head.

Anyways, I'm a new reader and am enjoying reading your thoughts.

@Jay: Thanks for your comments, and I hope this blog continues to be worthy of your interest. And, of course I hope you're right about my gold investment!

hey, love the blog - i will try and keep up with it!

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